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far we heard assad evil, rebels good. now things look much more complicated and more civilians end up dieing from this violence that keeps going back and forth. bill: what are the reports of those killed since this war started? >> reporter: you are talking north of 20,000 people, bill. not only do you have the people killed. you have the civilians and four or five,000 syrian soldiers and syrian rebels killed. but hundreds of thousands of refugees, people who left their homes with only the clothes on their back in turkey. we are now approaching winter up on the northern border of syria. it is going to get very, very tough for these syrian refugees who are now in these tents as winter sets in. we are talking about temperatures now in the 20s. and also snow in the northern mountains in syria. bill: thank you, leland. leland vittert live in jerusalem. jamie: president obama and governor mitt romney are set to square off in their first face-to-face debate. megyn kelly will join us live with new polling. bill: there is a manhunt for the killer of this border patrol agent? arizona. >> he was
it. these fighters are from libya, and iraq who are seasoned jihaddists. if bashar al-assad leaves you have a continuing civil war between the local rebels who want democracy and the jihaddists who want an islamist state. bill: leland vittert live. martha: $716 billion question. governor romney's campaign has said repeatedly that the president plans to cut $716 billion from medicare. >> medicare for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. now he says by not over paying hospitals and proceed sraoeursd, actuallproviders. going to hem them and saying we're going to reduce the rates across the board. that is not cutting the rates where there is abuse that's just cutting the rates. >> the obama campaign claims that is not through. jim angle is live from washington to help us court it all out. >> reporter: as you showed, martha, governor romney insists the president cut 716 billion from medicare while the president argues he saved 716 billion east said during the debate. >> $716 billion we were able to save from the medicare program by no longer over paying insuranc
's pursuit of the nuclear weapon and assad willingness to shoot down rebels. romney took that on directly. >> steve: here is the response to rom romm's. president obama has shown he is tough and responsible and steady commander-in-chief. mitt romney shows he would be the exact opposite. behind the tough talk he is erratic and unsteady and irresponsible on his audition in the world stage. would you agree with that. >> of course not. they can say over and over again. especially when romney talks about not setting a time limit. >> brian: let me bring you to afghanistan real quick before we run out of time. a reporter came out in a speech in washington and said the administration has been lying and there is a narrative coming out of the washington that is nonsense. she got out of afghanistan like you d and she said the taliban is gaining strength and we are not told the truth. that is a farrah phrase for word and that is her position. is it yours. >> the taliban is gaining strength and there is a narrative from administration. i want the narrative to be progress in afghanistan especially with
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